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Join Bailey Mullens and Michael Weidman as they react to world-renowned mathematician John Lennox, who tackles the age of the Earth and shows why the perceived conflict between science and faith is unnecessary.
Explore why the exact age of the Earth isn't a salvation issue and how the Bible allows for an ancient universe.
Understand that the most crucial point is *that* there was a creation, a fact once resisted by the scientific establishment.
Learn how the Bible isn't a science textbook but provides a framework that inspired the greatest scientific minds like Newton and Kepler.
See the parallels between the historical debate over a moving Earth (Galileo) and the modern debate over the Earth's age.
Discover how a careful reading of Genesis 1 in its original Hebrew suggests an indefinite time gap before the six days of creation.
Shift from asking "how" and "when" to the more profound, personal question of "why" the universe exists, a question only faith can answer.
This episode challenges believers to move beyond surface-level conflicts between science and faith, guiding the conversation toward the deeper, more personal truths found in Scripture.
John Lennox explains why the age of the Earth has become a stumbling block for many and why the Bible doesn't force us into a young-Earth position.
Drawing parallels to Galileo's time, Lennox shows how Christians have historically learned to read the Bible for its intended meaning, not as a scientific text.
A look at the Hebrew text of Genesis 1 reveals linguistic nuances that allow for a universe of profound antiquity, separating the initial creation from the six days.
The discussion culminates in the most important question: not *how* or *when* the universe was made, but *why*-a question that points to a personal Creator.
This episode is a call to move beyond shallow questions and engage with the profound, life-changing truths the Bible offers.
We explore how a belief in a rational, personal Creator gave birth to modern science. The universe is not a product of random chance, but of intelligent design, making it worthy of study.
Science can explain that water boils at 100°C, but it can't explain that the water is boiling because someone wants a cup of tea. We discuss why the Bible's focus on personal purpose is what our world desperately needs.
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The other half of the podcasting duo, Bailey is a creative and entrepreneur who loves exploring the intersection of faith, technology, and culture. He is the founder of Divine Creative.
Get to the Heart is a seat at the table with lifelong friends Bailey Mullens and Michael Weidman. Each episode they pick one compelling topic-anything from hot-button cultural debates to overlooked Bible passages-and turn it inside-out through a candid, Bible-anchored conversation. Their aim? To show that real discipleship is rooted in friendship: laughing, pushing, and sharpening one another while chasing the truth together. Tune in if you want thoughtful angles, honest questions, and the feeling that you're right there in the room with two friends rediscovering the heart of the Church.
Duration: 37 minutes of insightful discussion
Hosts: Bailey Mullens and Michael Weidman from Divine Creative
Topics Covered: Age of the Earth, John Lennox, Creation, Genesis 1, Science and Faith, Biblical Interpretation, Galileo
Audience: Christians wrestling with science, skeptics, and anyone interested in the faith-science dialogue.
If you're tired of the shallow conflicts between faith and science, watch the full episode and join a more thoughtful dialogue.
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