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Join Bailey Mullens and Michael Weidman for their first-ever guest interview with Hunter Lara, as they dive deep into the controversial eschatological view of Preterism and what it means for our understanding of the end times.
An introduction to the eschatological view that most biblical prophecy, including the Book of Revelation, was fulfilled in the first century.
Explore the historical context of the destruction of the second temple and how it serves as a cornerstone for the preterist interpretation.
Hear about the supernatural events recorded by first-century historians like Josephus that seem to align with the prophecies in Matthew 24.
Understand the key differences between believing most prophecy is fulfilled versus believing all prophecy is fulfilled, including the Second Coming.
Debate whether the thousand-year reign of Christ is a past historical era, a present spiritual reality, or a future physical kingdom.
Learn how to have healthy, charitable conversations about complex theology without compromising core beliefs or relationships.
This episode follows Hunter Lara's personal journey of questioning his dispensationalist upbringing and exploring the historical and theological arguments for Preterism, sparking a rich dialogue on how we read prophecy.
Hunter shares his personal story of how reading the letters to the seven churches from a first-century perspective led him to question a futuristic interpretation of Revelation.
Laying out the core tenets of Preterism, focusing on the imminency language in the New Testament and the historical fulfillment of prophecy in 70 AD.
Michael and Bailey push back, discussing the cyclical nature of prophecy, the unprecedented scale of World War II, and current events in Israel that point to a future fulfillment.
The conversation concludes with a shared passion for biblical truth, intellectual honesty, and the importance of living for the Kingdom of God today, regardless of one's eschatology.
This episode models how to engage with differing theological views charitably, pushing past surface-level arguments to the heart of what we believe.
A core theme of the discussion is the importance of grounding our interpretations in the original historical and literary context of the biblical authors and their audience.
The hosts and guest wrestle with the nature of deception, questioning whether history has been altered and how we can be certain of our beliefs in an age of competing narratives.
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The other half of the podcasting duo, Bailey is a creative and entrepreneur who loves exploring the intersection of faith, technology, and culture. He is the founder of Divine Creative.
Get to the Heart is a seat at the table with lifelong friends Bailey Mullens and Michael Weidman. Each episode they pick one compelling topic-anything from hot-button cultural debates to overlooked Bible passages-and turn it inside-out through a candid, Bible-anchored conversation. Their aim? To show that real discipleship is rooted in friendship: laughing, pushing, and sharpening one another while chasing the truth together. Tune in if you want thoughtful angles, honest questions, and the feeling that you're right there in the room with two friends rediscovering the heart of the Church.
Duration: 2 hours 3 minutes of in-depth conversation
Hosts: Bailey Mullens and Michael Weidman
Guest: Hunter Lara
Topics Covered: Eschatology, Preterism, Postmillennialism, 70 AD, Biblical Prophecy, Historical Interpretation, Conspiracy Theories.
Audience: Anyone interested in end-times theology, church history, and navigating complex biblical topics with grace.
If you're ready to question your assumptions and explore a different perspective on the end times, watch the full episode.
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